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	<title>Comments on: Econ 101:  rethinking my stance on Walmart &#8211; are they going Good?</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Rees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you should continue to boycott WalMart for the reasons you originally adopted. A bit of &quot;greenwash&quot; does change their fundamental business model.

They operate by importing huge quantities of cheap goods from China. Their commercial clout means they can squeeze suppliers&#039; margins on huge orders. But it uses vast amounts of energy to get that stuff to their stores. So cutting their electricity bill helps their bottom line a bit but makes an insignificant dent in their ghg production.

But the most obnoxious effect they have is the destruction of real urban places. All over North America, Main Street has closed -  and everyone now drives out to the big box by the freeway. Wal Mart doesn&#039;t deliver because you do that for them. And you miss out on all the urbanity and humanity of casual contact in downtown. Humans are social animals and need physical proximity to each other to survive.  WalMart cares nought for that. All it cares about are its huge profits.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stephen Rees’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://stephenrees.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/campbell-promises-cheap-transit-passes-to-post-secondary-students/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Campbell promises cheap transit passes to post-secondary students&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you should continue to boycott WalMart for the reasons you originally adopted. A bit of &#8220;greenwash&#8221; does change their fundamental business model.</p>
<p>They operate by importing huge quantities of cheap goods from China. Their commercial clout means they can squeeze suppliers&#8217; margins on huge orders. But it uses vast amounts of energy to get that stuff to their stores. So cutting their electricity bill helps their bottom line a bit but makes an insignificant dent in their ghg production.</p>
<p>But the most obnoxious effect they have is the destruction of real urban places. All over North America, Main Street has closed &#8211;  and everyone now drives out to the big box by the freeway. Wal Mart doesn&#8217;t deliver because you do that for them. And you miss out on all the urbanity and humanity of casual contact in downtown. Humans are social animals and need physical proximity to each other to survive.  WalMart cares nought for that. All it cares about are its huge profits.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Stephen Rees’s last blog post..<a href="http://stephenrees.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/campbell-promises-cheap-transit-passes-to-post-secondary-students/" rel="nofollow">Campbell promises cheap transit passes to post-secondary students</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I still don&#039;t buy there either (never have, in fact). Nancy, your comment about Chapters intrigues me, can you elaborate? I used to get my books from Amazon.ca, but their service got flaky so I switched to Chapters. Ideally I&#039;d buy from a local bookstore, but it takes me an hour to get to a good English-language bookstore from my home, so that&#039;s two hours round-trip to find a book and 9 times out of 10 they don&#039;t have what I want so they have to order it. Ordering online is the only practical solution for me if I want a book in English (there are good local bookstores for the books I buy in French!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I still don&#8217;t buy there either (never have, in fact). Nancy, your comment about Chapters intrigues me, can you elaborate? I used to get my books from Amazon.ca, but their service got flaky so I switched to Chapters. Ideally I&#8217;d buy from a local bookstore, but it takes me an hour to get to a good English-language bookstore from my home, so that&#8217;s two hours round-trip to find a book and 9 times out of 10 they don&#8217;t have what I want so they have to order it. Ordering online is the only practical solution for me if I want a book in English (there are good local bookstores for the books I buy in French!).</p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds a lot like Chapters, @Jan, and that alone would put me off of shopping there.   @brad, agreed that positive behaviour should be acknowledged and applauded.  The tricky part is deciding when it&#039;s enough to actively support the place with my shopping dollar.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m quite ready to take that step yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds a lot like Chapters, @Jan, and that alone would put me off of shopping there.   @brad, agreed that positive behaviour should be acknowledged and applauded.  The tricky part is deciding when it&#8217;s enough to actively support the place with my shopping dollar.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m quite ready to take that step yet.</p>
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		<title>By: ioana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, but I&#039;d like to recommend Bullfrogpower - we&#039;ve been customers since Jan. 2008. 

The energy they provide is always fresh, green and crunchy. 

No, but seriously, go BullfrogPower!!!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;ioana’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://miss-colombina.livejournal.com/98859.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy 4th Anniversary Love!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, but I&#8217;d like to recommend Bullfrogpower &#8211; we&#8217;ve been customers since Jan. 2008. </p>
<p>The energy they provide is always fresh, green and crunchy. </p>
<p>No, but seriously, go BullfrogPower!!!</p>
<p><abbr><em>ioana’s last blog post..<a href="http://miss-colombina.livejournal.com/98859.html" rel="nofollow">Happy 4th Anniversary Love!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ferry Tales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferry Tales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit, I&#039;m impressed by the steps they&#039;re taking. I think you can feel a little less guilty shopping there now.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ferry Tales’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://theferrytales.blogspot.com/2009/04/different-kind-of-pride_07.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A different kind of pride&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit, I&#8217;m impressed by the steps they&#8217;re taking. I think you can feel a little less guilty shopping there now.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ferry Tales’s last blog post..<a href="http://theferrytales.blogspot.com/2009/04/different-kind-of-pride_07.html" rel="nofollow">A different kind of pride</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The environmental consultant Joel Makower had a very interesting post on WalMart&#039;s sustainability initiatives a couple of years back:

http://makower.typepad.com/joel_makower/2007/10/wal-marts-susta.html

A lot of people dismiss this sort of thing too quickly as greenwashing, but in the case of WalMart and many other companies they really are trying to improve their performance and come up with better solutions. It doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re &quot;good guys&quot; now, but I believe attempts to improve should be applauded and encouraged instead of taking a black-and-white approach and treating big corporations as pure environmental villains, which is too much in the vein of George Bush&#039;s &quot;you&#039;re either with us or against us&quot; for my taste.

One interesting twist on all this is that WalMart&#039;s attempts to start offering organic food and recycled/recyclable products is apparently creating strains in the system due to the incredible demand that a big-box firm of Wal-Mart&#039;s size can create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The environmental consultant Joel Makower had a very interesting post on WalMart&#8217;s sustainability initiatives a couple of years back:</p>
<p><a href="http://makower.typepad.com/joel_makower/2007/10/wal-marts-susta.html" rel="nofollow">http://makower.typepad.com/joel_makower/2007/10/wal-marts-susta.html</a></p>
<p>A lot of people dismiss this sort of thing too quickly as greenwashing, but in the case of WalMart and many other companies they really are trying to improve their performance and come up with better solutions. It doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re &#8220;good guys&#8221; now, but I believe attempts to improve should be applauded and encouraged instead of taking a black-and-white approach and treating big corporations as pure environmental villains, which is too much in the vein of George Bush&#8217;s &#8220;you&#8217;re either with us or against us&#8221; for my taste.</p>
<p>One interesting twist on all this is that WalMart&#8217;s attempts to start offering organic food and recycled/recyclable products is apparently creating strains in the system due to the incredible demand that a big-box firm of Wal-Mart&#8217;s size can create.</p>
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		<title>By: lori newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>lori newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let yourself get seduced by the pretty wrapping, Nancy. If you&#039;re beginning to doubt that Walmart&#039;s practices remain unethical and exploitive of those most vulnerable in our society, take another look at the Walmart documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GINui9LdIQ. 

Walmart = High Cost for Low Cost.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;lori newton’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ljnewton.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/wheres-my-kindle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Where’s my Kindle?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t let yourself get seduced by the pretty wrapping, Nancy. If you&#8217;re beginning to doubt that Walmart&#8217;s practices remain unethical and exploitive of those most vulnerable in our society, take another look at the Walmart documentary <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GINui9LdIQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GINui9LdIQ</a>. </p>
<p>Walmart = High Cost for Low Cost.</p>
<p><abbr><em>lori newton’s last blog post..<a href="http://ljnewton.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/wheres-my-kindle/" rel="nofollow">Where’s my Kindle?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jan Karlsbjerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Karlsbjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if they do good, but they&#039;re certainly doing a good job at cutting costs.

I read somewhere (in an article about supply chains, I think) that getting selected as a supplier by Walmart is a tough and expensive process, both short-term and long-term: They demand very low prices &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; that next year&#039;s price is lower still. I.e. the supplier is expected to continually reduce their sales price, so they have to reduce costs, so they use cheaper parts and move their production facility from China (too expensive) to Vietnam (still cheap).

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jan Karlsbjerg’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/ahr1JkLR21c/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two pilots, two different approaches&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if they do good, but they&#8217;re certainly doing a good job at cutting costs.</p>
<p>I read somewhere (in an article about supply chains, I think) that getting selected as a supplier by Walmart is a tough and expensive process, both short-term and long-term: They demand very low prices <strong>and</strong> that next year&#8217;s price is lower still. I.e. the supplier is expected to continually reduce their sales price, so they have to reduce costs, so they use cheaper parts and move their production facility from China (too expensive) to Vietnam (still cheap).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jan Karlsbjerg’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JanKarlsbjerg/~3/ahr1JkLR21c/" rel="nofollow">Two pilots, two different approaches</a></em></abbr></p>
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