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	<title>Comments on: Friday Fun, my ass.  Or: why my friend Stephanie is boycotting Telus.</title>
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		<title>By: Wooly Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wooly Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try contacting the CRTC. I did this after a huge problem I had with Rogers over home phone service. I got a reply from the CRTC stating that this was usually beyond their control, but because I had lodged a complaint with the CRTC AND I told Rogers I had done so, I very quickly received a phone call from some VP at Rogers who was able to finally fix my problem. I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to mention that your story has been posted on a Canadian financial blog, that you are considering contacting Olsen on Your Side and/or Ellen Roseman. Put it in writing too... then you have a record. Sometimes a web search will help you pull up emails for Telus corporate people. And good luck Stephanie! What a terrible ordeal you have gone through!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try contacting the CRTC. I did this after a huge problem I had with Rogers over home phone service. I got a reply from the CRTC stating that this was usually beyond their control, but because I had lodged a complaint with the CRTC AND I told Rogers I had done so, I very quickly received a phone call from some VP at Rogers who was able to finally fix my problem. I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to mention that your story has been posted on a Canadian financial blog, that you are considering contacting Olsen on Your Side and/or Ellen Roseman. Put it in writing too&#8230; then you have a record. Sometimes a web search will help you pull up emails for Telus corporate people. And good luck Stephanie! What a terrible ordeal you have gone through!</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

My friend sent this to me, cause he has had some trouble with Telus too. But i have to say, it sounds like the problem you&#039;re having is with the computer, right? Sure, Telus may have not been the easiest to deal with, but let&#039;s be honest - the computer that you received is not a Telus brand computer. I&#039;ve had lots of issues with Lenovo in the past, and I have to say that I am very dissatisfied with their products. I agree with you that action needs to be taken, but I think Lenovo should be brought to court. Telus is just the ISP. If the computer worked fine, then you wouldn&#039;t have any problems with Telus. I say we should come up with a way to deal with Lenovo, cause these guys are the worst with customer service and just pass the buck to everyone else but them. I think they know how crappy their product is, but they don&#039;t want to deal with it. It&#039;s really a shame, and I&#039;m very sorry to hear about what you&#039;ve gone through.

Sincerely,
Eddie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>My friend sent this to me, cause he has had some trouble with Telus too. But i have to say, it sounds like the problem you&#8217;re having is with the computer, right? Sure, Telus may have not been the easiest to deal with, but let&#8217;s be honest &#8211; the computer that you received is not a Telus brand computer. I&#8217;ve had lots of issues with Lenovo in the past, and I have to say that I am very dissatisfied with their products. I agree with you that action needs to be taken, but I think Lenovo should be brought to court. Telus is just the ISP. If the computer worked fine, then you wouldn&#8217;t have any problems with Telus. I say we should come up with a way to deal with Lenovo, cause these guys are the worst with customer service and just pass the buck to everyone else but them. I think they know how crappy their product is, but they don&#8217;t want to deal with it. It&#8217;s really a shame, and I&#8217;m very sorry to hear about what you&#8217;ve gone through.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Eddie</p>
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		<title>By: S007</title>
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		<dc:creator>S007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Your experience sounds painful, but I think the start of it is some misinformation from the person you chatted to @telus when you were signing up.  I don&#039;t think these people are trained on computer hardware so I&#039;m not surprised with some of the information you were told.  
I too signed up for this deal and paid extra for the laptop and memory.  I am pretty skilled in computers so I knew that I was getting a lower powered machine and that it would run like a three legged dog on Vista.  Vista is a b@stard when it comes to how fast it runs...even on high powered machines it is a dog.  I don&#039;t blame telus for putting on Vista as it is really the only mass option these days for a operating system...unless you go MAC!  I got my machine and installed the extra RAM (very easy and this does not void your warranty) and turned it on.  Vista takes a long time to set up when you first turn a system on so I let it do its thing.  After the config, I found it pretty slow (too slow for me, but it did surf and email ok)...so I went to a PC dealer and bought a copy of XP SP2.  
I removed vista, installed XP and now the laptop RUNS LIKE A DREAM and I&#039;m very happy with it.  You may want to look at doing this. I&#039;m doing all the normal stuff...surfing, email, photos, music, MS office apps and dabble in Photoshop CS2.  Now that I&#039;m running XP, I&#039;m much happier and the laptop works great.
Sorry to hear about your friends woes, but I definatly recommend taking Vista off and putting on XP (or some free OS .....).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Your experience sounds painful, but I think the start of it is some misinformation from the person you chatted to @telus when you were signing up.  I don&#8217;t think these people are trained on computer hardware so I&#8217;m not surprised with some of the information you were told.<br />
I too signed up for this deal and paid extra for the laptop and memory.  I am pretty skilled in computers so I knew that I was getting a lower powered machine and that it would run like a three legged dog on Vista.  Vista is a b@stard when it comes to how fast it runs&#8230;even on high powered machines it is a dog.  I don&#8217;t blame telus for putting on Vista as it is really the only mass option these days for a operating system&#8230;unless you go MAC!  I got my machine and installed the extra RAM (very easy and this does not void your warranty) and turned it on.  Vista takes a long time to set up when you first turn a system on so I let it do its thing.  After the config, I found it pretty slow (too slow for me, but it did surf and email ok)&#8230;so I went to a PC dealer and bought a copy of XP SP2.<br />
I removed vista, installed XP and now the laptop RUNS LIKE A DREAM and I&#8217;m very happy with it.  You may want to look at doing this. I&#8217;m doing all the normal stuff&#8230;surfing, email, photos, music, MS office apps and dabble in Photoshop CS2.  Now that I&#8217;m running XP, I&#8217;m much happier and the laptop works great.<br />
Sorry to hear about your friends woes, but I definatly recommend taking Vista off and putting on XP (or some free OS &#8230;..).</p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark - hey, thanks for that.  I&#039;ve passed your e-mail on to Stephanie.    I think her real issue is with telus, but if you can help on the computer front, that may take some of the sting away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark &#8211; hey, thanks for that.  I&#8217;ve passed your e-mail on to Stephanie.    I think her real issue is with telus, but if you can help on the computer front, that may take some of the sting away.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy,

Thanks for sharing your friends story - it sounds extremely painful and disappointing, and not the kind of experience we would like to see our products found delivering.

I&#039;ve left my email, and would like to get your friend some help.

Thanks,
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your friends story &#8211; it sounds extremely painful and disappointing, and not the kind of experience we would like to see our products found delivering.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve left my email, and would like to get your friend some help.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a coincidence, Squawkfox recently wrote a nice blog post on this very subject:

http://www.squawkfox.com/2008/04/21/complimentary-turkey-why-free-stuff-is-for-the-birds/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a coincidence, Squawkfox recently wrote a nice blog post on this very subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.squawkfox.com/2008/04/21/complimentary-turkey-why-free-stuff-is-for-the-birds/" rel="nofollow">http://www.squawkfox.com/2008/04/21/complimentary-turkey-why-free-stuff-is-for-the-birds/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie: While I sympathize with your plight, I wonder what you expected? &quot;Gift offers&quot; like these are rarely worth the money and are frequently, as you&#039;ve discovered, simply a way of offloading merchandise that wouldn&#039;t sell otherwise. After all, if Telus couldn&#039;t make a profit on it, they wouldn&#039;t do it.

I hope you&#039;re successful in getting out of your contract but perhaps your story can at least serve as a warning to others: negotiate the best discount you can and don&#039;t be swayed by worthless gifts.

As an aside (and to be fair to Telus), Windows Vista is widely acknowledged to be a dog, and is frustrating to use even on much better computers even though it&#039;s what&#039;s normally included with them these days. That&#039;s not really their fault. I bet that if you replaced Vista on that laptop with a no-cost, GNU/Linux-based operating system like Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/) it&#039;d run like a dream. Email, web browsing, word processing, the works. I&#039;m using a desktop machine from 2002 with a similar set of software and it&#039;s perfectly adequate despite its age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie: While I sympathize with your plight, I wonder what you expected? &#8220;Gift offers&#8221; like these are rarely worth the money and are frequently, as you&#8217;ve discovered, simply a way of offloading merchandise that wouldn&#8217;t sell otherwise. After all, if Telus couldn&#8217;t make a profit on it, they wouldn&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re successful in getting out of your contract but perhaps your story can at least serve as a warning to others: negotiate the best discount you can and don&#8217;t be swayed by worthless gifts.</p>
<p>As an aside (and to be fair to Telus), Windows Vista is widely acknowledged to be a dog, and is frustrating to use even on much better computers even though it&#8217;s what&#8217;s normally included with them these days. That&#8217;s not really their fault. I bet that if you replaced Vista on that laptop with a no-cost, GNU/Linux-based operating system like Ubuntu (<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/</a>) it&#8217;d run like a dream. Email, web browsing, word processing, the works. I&#8217;m using a desktop machine from 2002 with a similar set of software and it&#8217;s perfectly adequate despite its age.</p>
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		<title>By: Drinkin&#8217; Guinness in the 416 &#124; At this rate, I&#8217;ll be a driver by 40</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drinkin&#8217; Guinness in the 416 &#124; At this rate, I&#8217;ll be a driver by 40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting my ordeal Nancy!
Funny that you mention &quot;Olson on Your side&quot; because when I was speaking to my mom the other day, she said I should call him. And someone else in one of the Vancouver newspapers.
An old friend who has a lot of family working at Telus wrote to me and said she was passing my number on to see if there was anything they could do to help.
I am going to be switching to Shaw so I can bundle my phone, internet and TV like I intended to in the first place.
I will keep checking back in case anyone else has any other ideas, thanks for the feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting my ordeal Nancy!<br />
Funny that you mention &#8220;Olson on Your side&#8221; because when I was speaking to my mom the other day, she said I should call him. And someone else in one of the Vancouver newspapers.<br />
An old friend who has a lot of family working at Telus wrote to me and said she was passing my number on to see if there was anything they could do to help.<br />
I am going to be switching to Shaw so I can bundle my phone, internet and TV like I intended to in the first place.<br />
I will keep checking back in case anyone else has any other ideas, thanks for the feedback!</p>
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		<title>By: guinness416</title>
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		<dc:creator>guinness416</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, reading this took years off MY life, never mind Stephanie&#039;s.  What a disgrace.  She should forward this whole pathetic tale to Ellen Roseman, who seems to have the capacity to work miracles.  My Bell tales are somewhat similar.  I think I&#039;m giving up phone and email and moving to smoke signals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, reading this took years off MY life, never mind Stephanie&#8217;s.  What a disgrace.  She should forward this whole pathetic tale to Ellen Roseman, who seems to have the capacity to work miracles.  My Bell tales are somewhat similar.  I think I&#8217;m giving up phone and email and moving to smoke signals.</p>
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